Katolick\u00fd duchovn\u00ed st\u0159edn\u00edch let, kter\u00fd poskytl u\u017e n\u011bkolik rozhovor\u016f, ale chce z\u016fstat v utajen\u00ed, nebo\u0165 se boj\u00ed \u201enegativn\u00ed odezvy\u201c od n\u011bkter\u00fdch sv\u00fdch nad\u0159\u00edzen\u00fdch, je jedn\u00edm z m\u00e1la, kter\u00fd se z\u00e1rove\u0148 neboj\u00ed \u0159\u00edct, co si mysl\u00ed. Se z\u00e1jmem sleduje politickou situaci v zemi i problematiku c\u00edrkevn\u00edch restituc\u00ed nebo nov\u00e9ho pape\u017ee Franti\u0161ka. ParlamentniListy.cz duchovn\u00edho vyzpov\u00eddaly.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Jak<\/strong> vn\u00edm\u00e1te<\/strong> sou\u010dasnou<\/strong> situaci<\/strong> okolo<\/strong> c\u00edrkevn\u00edch<\/strong> restituc\u00ed,<\/strong> kter\u00fdmi<\/strong> se<\/strong> zab\u00fdv\u00e1<\/strong> \u00dastavn\u00ed<\/strong> soud?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u0158\u00edk\u00e1m si, zda zrovna v\u011bci, jako je majetek c\u00edrkve-c\u00edrkv\u00ed,<\/strong> maj\u00ed doj\u00edt a\u017e k \u00dastavn\u00edmu soudu. Zda tu na\u0161e c\u00edrkev pot\u0159ebuje takovou \u201creklamu\u201c, jako je \u00daS. Osobn\u011b nejsem p\u0159\u00edznivcem plo\u0161n\u00e9ho navracen\u00ed majetku pod heslem: co bylo ukradeno, mus\u00ed b\u00fdt navr\u00e1ceno. Co bylo skute\u010dn\u011b st\u00e1tem ukradeno? V\u00ed to dnes opravdu n\u011bkdo na sto procent? Nev\u00ed! V\u017edy\u0165 soupis majetku p\u0159esn\u00fd nen\u00ed a nikdy nebude. Jsem kn\u011bz, ale mysl\u00edm si, \u017ee k\u00a0tomu, aby c\u00edrkev mohla d\u016fstojn\u011b fungovat, nepot\u0159ebuje p\u0159em\u00edru majetku, kterou stejn\u011b nebude um\u011bt spravovat. D\u016fkazem toho je sou\u010dasn\u00fd majetek, na kter\u00fd nejsou finance.<\/p>\n

Z\u00a0toho, co \u0159\u00edk\u00e1te, by asi va\u0161i nad\u0159\u00edzen\u00ed radost nem\u011bli, \u017ee? <\/strong><\/p>\n

To je mo\u017en\u00e9. Bohu\u017eel, demokracie je v\u011bc jedna a c\u00edrkevn\u00ed hierarchie v\u011bc druh\u00e1. \u201eN\u011bkte\u0159\u00ed\u201c bohu\u017eel zapom\u00ednaj\u00ed, \u017ee v\u011b\u0159\u00edc\u00ed jsou \u201eove\u010dky\u201c, ale nikoli \u201eovce\u201c. To je to, co mi opravdu vad\u00ed. Na\u0161i v\u011b\u0159\u00edc\u00ed dob\u0159e v\u011bd\u00ed, v\u00a0jak\u00e9m stavu je mnoho far, kostel\u016f, kapl\u00ed, na n\u011b\u017e se ani po v\u00edce jak 20 letech po revoluci nedostalo. A pro\u010d? Ptaj\u00ed se \u2013 co budete d\u011blat s\u00a0majetkem, budovami, polnostmi, lesy\u2026? A j\u00e1 odpov\u00edd\u00e1m, \u017ee nev\u00edm. Nav\u00edc, po\u0159\u00e1d nikdo v\u011b\u0159\u00edc\u00edm i \u201enev\u011b\u0159\u00edc\u00edm\u201c nevysv\u011btlil, kde chceme vz\u00edt na vysok\u00e9 dan\u011b z\u00a0nemovitost\u00ed. Kdo se o to bude starat. Zda to budou opravdu odborn\u00edci nebo op\u011bt jen vykukov\u00e9, s\u00a0c\u00edlem zisku? S\u00e1m to nev\u00edm.<\/p>\n

Co byste radil vy osobn\u011b? <\/strong><\/p>\n

Co j\u00e1 mohu radit. Jsem mal\u00fd p\u00e1n. Ale kdybych mohl, ur\u010dit\u011b bych po\u017eadoval jen to, co je nezbytn\u011b nutn\u00e9 k\u00a0fungov\u00e1n\u00ed a provozu c\u00edrkve. P\u0159\u00edpadn\u011b za navr\u00e1cen\u00fd majetek opravdu efektivn\u011b opravovat pam\u00e1tky \u2013 kostely, kaple, p\u0159\u00edpadn\u011b fary. My na jedn\u00e9 stran\u011b chceme majetek, na druh\u00e9 n\u00e1m pad\u00e1 na hlavu. Snad v\u00a0\u017e\u00e1dn\u00e9m st\u00e1t\u011b na sv\u011bt\u011b se neprod\u00e1v\u00e1 tolik c\u00edrkevn\u00edho majetku jako v\u00a0\u010cesku. Up\u0159\u00edmn\u011b to \u0159\u00edk\u00e1m jako far\u00e1\u0159. Na\u0161e fary, i ty, v\u00a0nich\u017e bydl\u00edme, jsou \u010dasto v\u00a0\u017ealostn\u00e9m stavu. Nech\u00e1pu to!<\/p>\n

Jak\u00e9 postaven\u00ed maj\u00ed dnes kn\u011b\u017e\u00ed v\u00a0katolick\u00e9 c\u00edrkvi v\u00a0\u010cR?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Paradoxn\u011b velmi slo\u017eit\u00e9. Ano, poslu\u0161nost a oddanost je v\u011bc jedna. Ale i kn\u011bz je mysl\u00edc\u00ed bytost. M\u011bl by to b\u00fdt opravdu chytr\u00fd, se\u010dt\u011bl\u00fd a inteligentn\u00ed \u010dlov\u011bk, kter\u00fd se dok\u00e1\u017ee vc\u00edtit do k\u016f\u017ee v\u011b\u0159\u00edc\u00edch v\u00a0mnoha ohledech. Vezm\u011bte si ale t\u0159eba ten paradox, \u017ee po deseti letech je na jinou faru p\u0159elo\u017een far\u00e1\u0159. Se\u017eene si ve farnosti \u0161ikovn\u00e9 zedn\u00edky nebo firmu. Ta oprav\u00ed za pen\u00edze z\u00a0dar\u016f, p\u0159\u00edpadn\u011b p\u0159\u00edsp\u011bvku od st\u00e1tu \u010di EU nebo i c\u00edrkve, kostel, faru, kapli. On a jeho \u201eove\u010dky\u201c vynalo\u017e\u00ed mnohalet\u00e9 \u00fasil\u00ed. A kdy\u017e je to v\u0161e hotov\u00e9, je kn\u011bz p\u0159elo\u017een t\u0159eba o pades\u00e1t, sto kilometr\u016f d\u00e1l. Jeho pr\u00e1ce je ta tam, on si mus\u00ed zvykat na nov\u00e9 lidi, oni na nov\u00e9ho duchovn\u00edho. Nepova\u017euji to za spr\u00e1vn\u00e9. Tohle rozhodn\u011b nen\u00ed ani motivuj\u00edc\u00ed,<\/strong> ani p\u0159\u00ednosn\u00e9. Sp\u00ed\u0161 naopak.<\/p>\n

Jak vy s\u00e1m vn\u00edm\u00e1te \u00falohu c\u00edrkve v\u00a0budoucnu?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Pokud se n\u00e1m nepoda\u0159\u00ed oslovit mlad\u00e9 lidi, rodiny a nenab\u00eddneme jim modern\u00ed pohled na sv\u011bt, se v\u0161emi klady a z\u00e1pory, a v\u00a0mnoh\u00e9m si budeme st\u00e1t za sv\u00fdm, za sto dv\u011b st\u011b let star\u00fdmi n\u00e1zory, tak ne p\u0159\u00edli\u0161 p\u0159\u00edzniv\u011b. Divili byste se, co mlad\u00fdch lid\u00ed mi \u0159\u00edk\u00e1, promi\u0148te, j\u00e1 jsem v\u011b\u0159\u00edc\u00ed, ale nechod\u00edm do kostela, proto\u017ee jsem norm\u00e1ln\u00ed zdrav\u00fd chlap a p\u0159i milov\u00e1n\u00ed pou\u017e\u00edv\u00e1m kondom a to va\u0161e v\u00edra zakazuje. Co na to t\u011bm lidem m\u00e1m \u0159\u00edct? Aby poka\u017ed\u00e9, kdy\u017e cht\u011bj\u00ed pro\u017e\u00edt n\u011bco opravdu intimn\u00edho, plodili d\u011bti? Do dne\u0161n\u00ed doby? Nebo, aby, a tomu bohu\u017eel nezabr\u00e1n\u00edme, kdy\u017e u\u017e dojde do extr\u00e9mu a sesmiln\u00ed, podstupovali riziko? Ano, on \u010di ona zh\u0159e\u0161\u00ed, to jist\u011b. Ale daleko v\u00edce by zh\u0159e\u0161ili, kdyby v\u011bdom\u011b n\u011bkoho ohrozili, nedej bo\u017ee nakazili. V\u00edte, ten pohled je dvojse\u010dn\u00fd.<\/p>\n

Jak vid\u00edte nov\u00e9ho pape\u017ee Franti\u0161ka?<\/strong><\/p>\n

To je snad za celou historii katolick\u00e9 c\u00edrkve prvn\u00ed \u010dlov\u011bk, kter\u00fd \u0159\u00edk\u00e1, co si opravdu mysl\u00ed a d\u011bl\u00e1 to tak, jak to c\u00edt\u00ed. Ano, v\u00a0mnoh\u00e9m s\u00a0n\u00edm mnoz\u00ed souhlasit nemusej\u00ed. Ale to nen\u00ed v\u011bc\u00ed pape\u017ee, ale c\u00edrkve jako celku. Pr\u00e1v\u011b kondomy, potraty v\u00a0nutn\u00e9m, \u017eivot ohro\u017euj\u00edc\u00edm p\u0159\u00edpad\u011b, ot\u00e1zka sexu\u00e1ln\u00edch men\u0161in. Ale i na to jednou t\u0159eba dojde. Ov\u0161em to, \u017ee pape\u017e jasn\u011b \u0159ekl, \u017ee nepot\u0159ebuje pal\u00e1ce, drah\u00fd n\u00e1bytek, limuz\u00edny, ochranky a j\u00e1 nev\u00edm co, je to, na \u010dem opravdu m\u00e1 st\u00e1t c\u00edrkev. Kdy\u017e to \u0159eknu lidov\u011b \u2013 asi dost lidem ze sv\u00e9ho okol\u00ed pije krev. A jsou z\u00a0n\u011bj dost v\u00a0\u0161oku. Kamar\u00e1d, kter\u00fd je ve Vatik\u00e1nu, \u0159\u00edkal, \u017ee je tam opravdu pozdvi\u017een\u00ed. Na to toti\u017e mnoz\u00ed hodnost\u00e1\u0159i nebyli zvykl\u00ed a p\u0159ipraven\u00ed. Je to stejn\u00e9 jako t\u0159eba v\u00a0politice. Pokud se opravdu najde citliv\u00fd a rozumn\u00fd vrcholn\u00fd politik a chce opravdu d\u011blat n\u011bco pro zemi, lidi, tak bu\u010f si to dok\u00e1\u017ee prosadit, ale pak je neobl\u00edben\u00fd a ohro\u017een\u00fd, nebo ho to semele. Svat\u00e9ho otce to jist\u011b nesemele. Jen jsem zv\u011bdav, jak to bude vypadat d\u00e1l. Stra\u0161n\u011b moc mu dr\u017e\u00edm palce. A je vid\u011bt, \u017ee B\u016fh opravdu vybral v\u00a0tolik pot\u0159ebn\u00e9 dob\u011b takov\u00e9hoto \u010dlov\u011bka, sv\u00e9ho n\u00e1stupce na Zemi.<\/p>\n

Jak<\/strong> vn\u00edm\u00e1te<\/strong> celib\u00e1t?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Jako historick\u00e9 dogma a m\u00fdtus. Sp\u00ed\u0161 bych jej nechal na zv\u00e1\u017een\u00ed ka\u017ed\u00e9ho jedince \u2013 duchovn\u00edho. Nebo bych ud\u011blal to, co je u j\u00e1hn\u016f. P\u0159ed vysv\u011bcen\u00edm se m\u016f\u017ee\u0161 o\u017eenit, \u017e\u00edt se \u017eenou, po vysv\u011bcen\u00ed nikoli. Ale toto dogma, kter\u00e9 se tu praktikuje u\u017e stalet\u00ed, opravdu nic z\u00e1sadn\u00edho v\u00a0novodob\u00fdch d\u011bjin\u00e1ch c\u00edrkvi nep\u0159inese. I kn\u011b\u017e\u00ed jsou jen lid\u00e9. To je nutn\u00e9 si uv\u011bdomit.<\/p>\n

M\u011bl jste n\u011bkdy chu\u0165 takzvan\u011b odej\u00edt, neb\u00fdt kn\u011bzem? <\/strong><\/p>\n

Mockr\u00e1t. V\u011b\u0159te mi, \u017ee ano. A ani te\u010f to nen\u00ed jin\u00e9. Jen mne dr\u017e\u00ed to, \u017ee jsem c\u00edtil b\u00fdt do slu\u017eby kn\u011bze povol\u00e1n, \u017ee c\u00edt\u00edm vnuknut\u00ed, a \u017ee v\u011b\u0159\u00edm, \u017ee situace bude lep\u0161\u00ed. A taky to, \u017ee jsou okolo mne st\u00e1le zku\u0161en\u011bj\u0161\u00ed spolubrat\u0159i, kte\u0159\u00ed nevid\u00ed sv\u011bt jen \u010dern\u011b nebo b\u00edle, ale i barevn\u011b. \u017de v\u011b\u0159\u00edm, \u017ee s\u00a0jejich pomoc\u00ed a pomoc\u00ed jim podobn\u00fdch, i kdy\u017e jich nen\u00ed mnoho, dok\u00e1\u017eeme c\u00edrkev udr\u017eet a opravdu z\u00a0n\u00ed vybudovat modern\u00ed, nesm\u00edrm\u011b d\u016fle\u017eitou a neopomenutelnou instituci, kter\u00e1 i nad\u00e1le bude m\u00edt milion\u016fm lid\u00ed co \u0159\u00edct, vzk\u00e1zat, p\u0159edat. To je moje nejv\u011bt\u0161\u00ed p\u0159\u00e1n\u00ed a za to se modl\u00edm.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

Katolick\u00fd duchovn\u00ed st\u0159edn\u00edch let, kter\u00fd poskytl u\u017e n\u011bkolik rozhovor\u016f, ale chce z\u016fstat v utajen\u00ed, nebo\u0165 se boj\u00ed \u201enegativn\u00ed odezvy\u201c od n\u011bkter\u00fdch sv\u00fdch nad\u0159\u00edzen\u00fdch, je jedn\u00edm z m\u00e1la, kter\u00fd se z\u00e1rove\u0148 neboj\u00ed \u0159\u00edct, co si mysl\u00ed. Se z\u00e1jmem sleduje politickou situaci v zemi i problematiku c\u00edrkevn\u00edch restituc\u00ed nebo nov\u00e9ho pape\u017ee Franti\u0161ka….<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":4,"featured_media":96,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":"","_expiration-date-status":"","_expiration-date":0,"_expiration-date-type":"","_expiration-date-categories":[],"_expiration-date-options":[]},"categories":[30,2],"tags":[115,21,220,221,97,158],"class_list":["post-204","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-cr","category-ekonomika","tag-cirkev","tag-jinyma-ocima","tag-katolik","tag-knez","tag-miliardy-pro-cirkve","tag-papez"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/pohled.podhrazsky.eu\/subdom\/pohled\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/204","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/pohled.podhrazsky.eu\/subdom\/pohled\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/pohled.podhrazsky.eu\/subdom\/pohled\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/pohled.podhrazsky.eu\/subdom\/pohled\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/4"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/pohled.podhrazsky.eu\/subdom\/pohled\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=204"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"http:\/\/pohled.podhrazsky.eu\/subdom\/pohled\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/204\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":205,"href":"http:\/\/pohled.podhrazsky.eu\/subdom\/pohled\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/204\/revisions\/205"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/pohled.podhrazsky.eu\/subdom\/pohled\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/96"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/pohled.podhrazsky.eu\/subdom\/pohled\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=204"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/pohled.podhrazsky.eu\/subdom\/pohled\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=204"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/pohled.podhrazsky.eu\/subdom\/pohled\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=204"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}